By ERIC SCHELKOPF
Chicago band Material Issue released songs with highly infectious melodies that would sink deep into your brain.
Those who attend the International Pop Overthrow festival – the festival's name being a reference to Material Issue's debut album, "International Pop Overthrow" – will no doubt find much to smile about. More than 60 acts from both near and far will perform as part of the festival, which will be held from April 22-30 at Montrose Saloon, 2933 W. Montrose Ave. in Chicago. A schedule for the festival is at internationalpopoverthrow.com/schedules/ipo-2022-schedules/chicago-2022
I had the chance to talk to International Pop Overthrow founder and CEO David Bash about the upcoming festival.
Q – The name "International Pop Overthrow" is a reference to Chicago band Material Issue’s debut album, International Pop Overthrow.
That band helped introduce many people to power pop. Did you pick the
name in tribute to Jim Ellison and to recognize the band's impact?
I absolutely did. Tragically, Jim
Ellison had taken his own life not long before I decided to do the
festival, and I wanted to pay tribute to Material Issue and their debut
album, which was certainly a paragon in power pop circles. It was
gratifying that the surviving members of the band, Ted Ansani and Mike
Zelenko, embraced the name and when we came to Chicago for the first
time, in 2002, their current band played the festival. I felt honored.
Q – Of course, Material Re-Issue played
at the festival in 2011 and Phil Angotti is performing at this year’s
festival. Is it important the keep the band’s memory alive and perhaps
introduce the band’s music to new fans?
Without a doubt it is. Having Material Re-Issue at the festival in 2011 for the 20th
Anniversary of International Pop Overthrow was perhaps my biggest
thrill at any IPO we’ve done, anywhere.
Jim’s family was in attendance,
and I was so nervous introducing the band from the stage, but somehow
the right words came to mind. I remember looking up and saying "Jim
Ellison, this one’s for you," and the crowd went wild!
Material
Re-Issue’s performance was magical, and it was as if Jim’s spirit had
been imbued in Phil Angotti that night, as he sang and played Jim’s
parts almost exactly as Jim likely would have.
Material Issue’s music, like that of
all the other great power pop bands, must be kept alive and hopefully
more and more fans of the genre will hear about them. If I’ve done even
a small bit in helping that to happen, I’m grateful.
Q – What made you want to start the
International Pop Overthrow Music Festival in the first place? Has the
festival lived up to your vision?
I began the festival in 1998 in my
home base of Los Angeles. I had been writing reviews for several pop
music fanzines, and in doing so got to know all kinds of great bands
from all around the world, many of whom expressed their desire to play
in Los Angeles.
I thought, "Why don’t I create an environment for them to
be able to all play under one roof, and galvanize the pop scene?" At
that time, International Pop Overthrow had a second meaning, which was
to "overthrow" that which was being played on mainstream radio at the
time, which was music like Korn and Limp Bizkit, totally un-melodic.
I
wanted to bring melody and hooks back to mainstream radio, and hoped to
do this with the festival. Unfortunately it hasn’t happened, but my
vision of giving pop artists a place to play has sustained since then,
in several cities around the world.
Q – Has the festival expanded to include
other genres besides just power pop? How do you go about choosing the
acts that will be part of the festival?
It has, yes. As we progressed,
several bands who weren’t doing power pop would contact me and say, "Why
haven’t we been invited to play the festival? We’re pop!" and some of
our fans would express the same feelings about non-power pop bands they
liked.
I agreed that they were right, and around 2005 I started making a
concerted effort to expand our parameters. I’m proud to say that I
believe we have done that, without sacrificing an ounce of what makes
IPO what it always has been: about melody.
My wife, Rina Bardfield, and I do a
lot of searching online to find bands who we feel are right for the
festival. Ironically, because of social media, bands are less proactive
in reaching out to venues and events like ours, because they feel as if
they're more likely to be seen than they would have been before the
internet.
Of course that’s not true, because with the huge proliferation
of bands, it’s easy to get lost in the shuffle. We realized this a long
time ago, so we decided to be more proactive in searching for bands,
and it’s really paid off! Of course, some bands do reach out to us as
well, and we find several good ones that way.
Q – Of course, in the early days of the
festival, Kara’s Flowers played at the festival and then a few years
later achieved great success as Maroon 5. At the time, did you think the
band would go on to achieve the success that it did?
Kara’s Flowers had already gained a
strong following in Los Angeles by the time IPO had begun. They’d
released an album on a major label (Reprise Records), and had played
some huge venues in town.
We were very fortunate to have them for our
first three years! By year three, they had added a fifth member, and did
songs that would ultimately become Maroon 5 songs.
We were all shocked
because their new sound was so different, but obviously it was the right
direction for them. I don’t think anyone could have predicted just how
successful they would become, but it was obvious to everyone that they
had extraordinary talent.
I’m really happy for them!
Q – Where do you see the festival going from here?
With all the changes happening in
the music business in the past 20 years, including closures of venues
and record labels, we’re really grateful to still be here. Certainly I
hope we become better known, but not at the cost of changing our ethos,
which I will never do.
I see us going to some different cities,
particularly some new international cities; in fact, I just heard back
from a venue in The Netherlands who have potential interest in hosting
us next year, so let’s keep our fingers crossed.
No matter what, I plan to continue
to do the festival as long as my health permits me to do so, and as long
as there are people who want to play and hear this music